I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
>I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo forums.
Nicholas wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:37:13 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> > wrote: >> Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec >> 2008 417 432 392 333 276 306 253 229 200 73
> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical > Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast > sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
.. more like usenet is being killed. most of the major ISPs are terminating usenet service under the guise of controlling rampant porn and w4r3z proliferation. at least that's their excuse. my broadband provider (time-warner in NC) has also terminated usenet service. luckily my dial-up service still has usenet.
>> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >> phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >> I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
> 1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became > available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a > common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their > TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
> 2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. > Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
> 3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. > Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation > Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
> 4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. > Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan > equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
> 5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of > diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical > Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast > sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
> Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, > but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo > forums.
> Regards,
> Lawrence Glickman > alias: Nicholas
I'm even more glad to see you are alive and kicking, Larry! -Sam
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:38:16 -0400, No Body <n...@body.com> wrote: >Nicholas wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:37:13 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> >> wrote: >>> Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec >>> 2008 417 432 392 333 276 306 253 229 200 73
>> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical >> Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast >> sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
>.. more like usenet is being killed. most of the major ISPs are >terminating usenet service under the guise of controlling rampant porn >and w4r3z proliferation. at least that's their excuse. my broadband >provider (time-warner in NC) has also terminated usenet service. luckily >my dial-up service still has usenet.
>.. i wonder what the stance is globally.
>-r
My gut feeling is that this abandonment of Usenet has something to do with Global Security. Making it easier for Echelon to intercept 'dangerous transmissions' by eliminating a lot of noise (traffic). Usenet traffic overloads their systems capabilities.
The irony becomes apparent when one discovers that the NSA in the USA has been intercepting military and non-military phone transmissions to and from overseas for a long time.
Whichever answer is the correct answer is moot. Denying access to Usenet is an abridgement to the First Ammendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.
Whomever is behind this 'movement' needs to meet Mr. Rope.
>>> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >>> phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >>> I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
>> 1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became >> available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a >> common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their >> TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
>> 2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. >> Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
>> 3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. >> Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation >> Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
>> 4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. >> Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan >> equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
>> 5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of >> diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
>> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical >> Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast >> sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
>> Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, >> but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo >> forums.
>> Regards,
>> Lawrence Glickman >> alias: Nicholas
> I'm even more glad to see you are alive and kicking, Larry! > -Sam
Thanks Sam ;)
I had a few close calls. Broke my neck (C7), back (L4 compression fracture) left arm (ulna at wrist snapped in two like a broomstick handle), and had to have an AICD/PM installed because I have a lethal heart rhythm. I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia.
A lack of blood supply to my brain caused a fall from 2 stories high. They had me on life support in Trauma and ICU. It took TWO YEARS in braces and casts and then physical therapy to get back some of my functions, but I still have severe cervical stenosis and my spinal cord is getting pinched off in my neck. 1 blow to the head and I am a quadraplegic, if I survive it at all. I can email you the MRI scan if you want.
Later, doctors told me I was going to die if I went home for the weekend before I got the implant. So I have a Medtronic defibrillator with anti-tachycardia pacing screwed into the bottom of my right ventricle.
So...I =was= dead twice. Once after the fall, and the 2nd time when they fibrillated my heart in the OR to see if the AICD worked properly. For a guy who has been dead twice already, I feel pretty good ! 8-)
AICD= automatic implantable cardioverter defibrillator PM = pacemaker ICU= intensive care unit cervical stenosis = spinal cord column too narrow for spinal cord tissue. defibrillation= 35 joules directly into the myocardium to stop the heart, in hopes that when it restarts itself it will do so with *normal* rhythm.
Note: trans-throacic topical defibrillation requires about 400 joules, but since I'm wired directly into the heart, a lot less energy is necessary.
>>>> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >>>> phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >>>> I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
>>>> -Sam >>>> http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html >>> 1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became >>> available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a >>> common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their >>> TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
>>> 2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. >>> Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
>>> 3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. >>> Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation >>> Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
>>> 4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. >>> Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan >>> equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
>>> 5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of >>> diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
>>> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical >>> Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast >>> sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
>>> Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, >>> but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo >>> forums.
>>> Regards,
>>> Lawrence Glickman >>> alias: Nicholas
>> I'm even more glad to see you are alive and kicking, Larry! >> -Sam
> Thanks Sam ;)
> I had a few close calls. Broke my neck (C7), back (L4 compression > fracture) left arm (ulna at wrist snapped in two like a broomstick > handle), and had to have an AICD/PM installed because I have a lethal > heart rhythm. I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia.
> A lack of blood supply to my brain caused a fall from 2 stories high. > They had me on life support in Trauma and ICU. It took TWO YEARS in > braces and casts and then physical therapy to get back some of my > functions, but I still have severe cervical stenosis and my spinal > cord is getting pinched off in my neck. 1 blow to the head and I am a > quadraplegic, if I survive it at all. I can email you the MRI scan if > you want.
> Later, doctors told me I was going to die if I went home for the > weekend before I got the implant. So I have a Medtronic defibrillator > with anti-tachycardia pacing screwed into the bottom of my right > ventricle.
> So...I =was= dead twice. Once after the fall, and the 2nd time when > they fibrillated my heart in the OR to see if the AICD worked > properly. For a guy who has been dead twice already, I feel pretty > good ! 8-)
> AICD= automatic implantable cardioverter defibrillator > PM = pacemaker > ICU= intensive care unit > cervical stenosis = spinal cord column too narrow for spinal cord > tissue. > defibrillation= 35 joules directly into the myocardium to stop the > heart, in hopes that when it restarts itself it will do so with > *normal* rhythm.
> Note: trans-throacic topical defibrillation requires about 400 > joules, but since I'm wired directly into the heart, a lot less energy > is necessary.
> Lg > Risen from the Dead
Your brain function is very good... you are writing well. May your health continue to improve, Larry!
Nicholas wrote: > ... I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia.
Probably an excess of truculence! ;-)
Back on topic, there are an enoromous number of web-based discussion groups. But because they don't derive from a common taxonomy like USENET there's no pressure to form relationships between them, nor do they form a unified searchable database of wisdom or opinion...
Mike. -- If reply address is invalid, remove spurious "@" and substitute "plus" where needed.
>1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became >available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a >common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their >TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
>2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. >Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
>3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. >Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation >Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
>4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. >Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan >equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
>5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of >diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
Having been here since 1997, I think you've hit the nail.
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:37:15 +0100, "Mike Coon" <Mike@@mjcoon.+.com> wrote:
>Nicholas wrote: >> ... I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia.
>Probably an excess of truculence! ;-)
I forgot to mention that I sustained brain damage from bleeding into the arachnoid area of the skull. As a result, I have difficulty walking and some of my *motor skills* are not quite right.
My neurosurgeons decided to use drugs to stop the bleeding instead of opening the cranium and neck, as they told me that their surgical procedures were likely to put me in a wheel chair for the rest of my life and they didn't want to take the chance unless the bleeding didn't stop. So they used drugs to stop the bleeding, but irreversible damage has obviously been done.
For example, the truculent area of my brain seems to be non-functional at the moment. Perhaps some ability in that area will return in the future if I am lucky.
Don't ever let this happen to you. I was in a coma for days and when I woke up I thought I was in HELL.
>Back on topic, there are an enoromous number of web-based discussion groups. >But because they don't derive from a common taxonomy like USENET there's no >pressure to form relationships between them, nor do they form a unified >searchable database of wisdom or opinion...
Same with any research library. There are a lot of sources of information on =any= subject, but they are scattered about in many many different books and periodicals. There is no single searchable database that contains _all_ the information on any subject that is available, although Medline comes >close<.
And remember that by the time a book makes it to print, it is already obsolete. At least with the WWW, you can attempt to stay at the bleeding edge of the learning curve without the expense of accumulating a vast paper library.
At any rate, Mike, I'm gone as of October 25, 2008, when Comcast disassociates itself from Giganews. I may or may not be able to find a replacement.
On 2008-10-11, Nicholas <Nicho...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> At any rate, Mike, I'm gone as of October 25, 2008, when Comcast > disassociates itself from Giganews. I may or may not be able to find > a replacement.
Motzarella.org and aioe.org both have free servers that will keep you online for the foreseeable future.
On Oct 11, 6:28 am, Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-10-11, Nicholas <Nicho...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > At any rate, Mike, I'm gone as of October 25, 2008, when Comcast > > disassociates itself from Giganews. I may or may not be able to find > > a replacement.
> Motzarella.org and aioe.org both have free servers that will keep you > online for the foreseeable future.
>>>>> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >>>>> phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. >>>>> Most people >>>>> I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
>>>>> -Sam >>>>> http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html >>>> 1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became >>>> available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a >>>> common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their >>>> TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
>>>> 2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. >>>> Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
>>>> 3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. >>>> Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation >>>> Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
>>>> 4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. >>>> Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan >>>> equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
>>>> 5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of >>>> diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
>>>> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical >>>> Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast >>>> sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
>>>> Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, >>>> but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo >>>> forums.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Lawrence Glickman >>>> alias: Nicholas
>>> I'm even more glad to see you are alive and kicking, Larry! >>> -Sam
>> Thanks Sam ;)
>> I had a few close calls. Broke my neck (C7), back (L4 compression >> fracture) left arm (ulna at wrist snapped in two like a broomstick >> handle), and had to have an AICD/PM installed because I have a lethal >> heart rhythm. I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia. >> A lack of blood supply to my brain caused a fall from 2 stories high. >> They had me on life support in Trauma and ICU. It took TWO YEARS in >> braces and casts and then physical therapy to get back some of my >> functions, but I still have severe cervical stenosis and my spinal >> cord is getting pinched off in my neck. 1 blow to the head and I am a >> quadraplegic, if I survive it at all. I can email you the MRI scan if >> you want.
>> Later, doctors told me I was going to die if I went home for the >> weekend before I got the implant. So I have a Medtronic defibrillator >> with anti-tachycardia pacing screwed into the bottom of my right >> ventricle.
>> So...I =was= dead twice. Once after the fall, and the 2nd time when >> they fibrillated my heart in the OR to see if the AICD worked >> properly. For a guy who has been dead twice already, I feel pretty >> good ! 8-)
>> AICD= automatic implantable cardioverter defibrillator >> PM = pacemaker >> ICU= intensive care unit >> cervical stenosis = spinal cord column too narrow for spinal cord >> tissue. >> defibrillation= 35 joules directly into the myocardium to stop the >> heart, in hopes that when it restarts itself it will do so with >> *normal* rhythm.
>> Note: trans-throacic topical defibrillation requires about 400 >> joules, but since I'm wired directly into the heart, a lot less energy >> is necessary.
>> Lg >> Risen from the Dead
> Your brain function is very good... you are writing well. May your > health continue to improve, Larry!
> -Sam
Did neither of you ever learn to snip? Don't you know your messages cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars to send everywhere?
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:00:04 +0100, A <a...@nospam.com> wrote: >On 11/10/08 06:16, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Nicholas wrote: >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:49:05 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> >>> wrote:
>>>> Nicholas wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:37:13 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Postings to sci.geo.satellite-nav >>>>>> (SA was turned of on May of 2000)
>>>>>> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >>>>>> phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. >>>>>> Most people >>>>>> I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
>>>>>> -Sam >>>>>> http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html >>>>> 1) we've watched the evolution of the technology since it first became >>>>> available for civilian use. It is now so endemic, it has become a >>>>> common commodity. How many people are having discussions about their >>>>> TV's going from analog to digital in the US in February of 2009?
>>>>> 2) a lot has been said in this n/g about the workings of the system. >>>>> Most of us already know more than we want to know about "How it Works"
>>>>> 3) most of the innovations that were being made have been implemented. >>>>> Now the only civilian segment left for integration is the Aviation >>>>> Sector. [see postings in today's NEWS headlines]
>>>>> 4) there were too many flame wars here to make it worth the time. >>>>> Beyond that...this group was Garmin-centric, and I have all Magellan >>>>> equipment except for one Lowrance and 1 Garmin.
>>>>> 5) everything that needed to be said was said. There came a point of >>>>> diminishing returns regarding taking time to post and read.
>>>>> 6) Usenet is dying. I called my ISP (comcast) for some Technical >>>>> Support, and they told me they never heard of Usenet. Now Comcast >>>>> sends me an email saying they're discontinuing Usenet on October 25.
>>>>> Nice to see you're alive and kicking. I know Jack is still around, >>>>> but wonder about Joe. I've seen Alan Browne over on some photo >>>>> forums.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lawrence Glickman >>>>> alias: Nicholas
>>>> I'm even more glad to see you are alive and kicking, Larry! >>>> -Sam
>>> Thanks Sam ;)
>>> I had a few close calls. Broke my neck (C7), back (L4 compression >>> fracture) left arm (ulna at wrist snapped in two like a broomstick >>> handle), and had to have an AICD/PM installed because I have a lethal >>> heart rhythm. I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia. >>> A lack of blood supply to my brain caused a fall from 2 stories high. >>> They had me on life support in Trauma and ICU. It took TWO YEARS in >>> braces and casts and then physical therapy to get back some of my >>> functions, but I still have severe cervical stenosis and my spinal >>> cord is getting pinched off in my neck. 1 blow to the head and I am a >>> quadraplegic, if I survive it at all. I can email you the MRI scan if >>> you want.
>>> Later, doctors told me I was going to die if I went home for the >>> weekend before I got the implant. So I have a Medtronic defibrillator >>> with anti-tachycardia pacing screwed into the bottom of my right >>> ventricle.
>>> So...I =was= dead twice. Once after the fall, and the 2nd time when >>> they fibrillated my heart in the OR to see if the AICD worked >>> properly. For a guy who has been dead twice already, I feel pretty >>> good ! 8-)
>>> AICD= automatic implantable cardioverter defibrillator >>> PM = pacemaker >>> ICU= intensive care unit >>> cervical stenosis = spinal cord column too narrow for spinal cord >>> tissue. >>> defibrillation= 35 joules directly into the myocardium to stop the >>> heart, in hopes that when it restarts itself it will do so with >>> *normal* rhythm.
>>> Note: trans-throacic topical defibrillation requires about 400 >>> joules, but since I'm wired directly into the heart, a lot less energy >>> is necessary.
>>> Lg >>> Risen from the Dead
>> Your brain function is very good... you are writing well. May your >> health continue to improve, Larry!
>> -Sam
>Did neither of you ever learn to snip? >Don't you know your messages cost the net hundreds if not thousands of >dollars to send everywhere?
So, if I get this right, you yourself REPOST the entire message, whilst criticizing us for doing the same. As for costing anybody anything, I've paid my monthly fee for using this service.
>I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
I've seen a lot of newsgroups go to the rocks over the past 2/3 years, strange, the people who used to post on Usenet are certainly still around and Usenet certainly has its "PROs".
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:37:13 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET >phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people >I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
Well, Comcast (a major provider of broadband access) is shutting off its usenet feed (once in-house, currently subcontracted to giganews.com). When I complained, they said that vanishingly few of their customers took advantage of the service, preferring to get information elsewhere on the Internet. As a BIG DEAL, giganews will give any current Comcast/giganews user 20% off for the first few months if they want to subscribe directly to giganews. --Pete Peter W. Meek <pwm...@mail.msen.com> http://www.msen.com/~pwmeek/
> So, if I get this right, you yourself REPOST the entire message, > whilst criticizing us for doing the same. As for costing anybody > anything, I've paid my monthly fee for using this service.
> Surely, this was meant to be a joke.
As a joke it fell sorta flat, I agree. But he has a point. I am not sure the cost-of-transmission argument is as sound as it used to be in the childhood years of usenet (long before the Internet), when phone lines were the most common transmission medium. But it is annoying when you have to scroll through piles of text that you most likely read (or scrolled over) mere seconds ago to get to the new contribution. It wastes time and, more importantly, it breaks the flow of the conversation - to the extent that there is a flow to break in the first place. (And don't get me started on top posting.)
-- * Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/> - It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true. -- Bertrand Russell
<han...@math.ntnu.no> wrote: >+ Nicholas <Nicho...@nowhere.net>:
>> So, if I get this right, you yourself REPOST the entire message, >> whilst criticizing us for doing the same. As for costing anybody >> anything, I've paid my monthly fee for using this service.
>> Surely, this was meant to be a joke.
>As a joke it fell sorta flat, I agree. But he has a point. I am not sure >the cost-of-transmission argument is as sound as it used to be in the >childhood years of usenet (long before the Internet), when phone lines >were the most common transmission medium. But it is annoying when you >have to scroll through piles of text that you most likely read (or >scrolled over) mere seconds ago to get to the new contribution. It >wastes time and, more importantly, it breaks the flow of the >conversation - to the extent that there is a flow to break in the first >place. (And don't get me started on top posting.)
And by the same token, I've been chastised over and over again for snipping for brevity.
IOW, I removed what -I- thought wasn't germane to the discussion, only to be criticized for avoiding answering what somebody else thought was important.
So here is the way I look at it. If I am going to make a 1 sentence reply, I don't need to quote the tome that led to it. But at the same time, some people will disagree no matter whether I snip for brevity or toss the entire thread into a single post.
I can tell you that no matter which choice you make, someone is not going to be pleased with it. So where do you go from there?
The argument if you snip is that some people don't want to go up 20 posts to find out what someone else said.
The argument to not snip is it wastes bandwidth or clutters the message.
No matter which choice you make, you lose. Sort of like the up-coming elections in the US.
>> Did neither of you ever learn to snip? > So, if I get this right, you yourself REPOST the entire message, > whilst criticizing us for doing the same. > Surely, this was meant to be a joke.
A few years ago, my ISP's Usenet service got flaky, so I subscribed to Supernews for a few months. Service was flawless.
What I miss is the easy search of Usenet group archives that used to be available at groups.google.com. I think that sort of search capability is available somewhere but I haven't taken the time to chase it down.
Roy Lewallen wrote: > There's no need to abandon Usenet if your ISP quits carrying it. For a > relatively small fee you can subscribe to a service that'll provide it. > I found one list of providers at > http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/providers/providers.html.
> A few years ago, my ISP's Usenet service got flaky, so I subscribed to > Supernews for a few months. Service was flawless.
> What I miss is the easy search of Usenet group archives that used to be > available at groups.google.com. I think that sort of search capability > is available somewhere but I haven't taken the time to chase it down.
> I wonder if the lack of postings and participation is a general USENET > phenomenon, a shift in technical use of GPS, or something else. Most people > I know that use computers, don't even know what USENET it.
I believe the problem is with usenet as a whole, rather than any specific group. I know I used to be active in a number of usenet groups; but over the last few years I've drifted away from them, for a number of reasons. First the signal to noise ratio has declined beyond all reason. The spammers have won. When I do look in newsgroups, it's too unwieldy to fire up a newsreader and download zillions of garbage posts in order to find a few useful items. Google Groups has a nice interface for finding the gems, and allows posting when I need to ask a question. Second, most of what I've looked for (TV commentary, computer hardware discussions, car care, GPS) has migrated to the web. Web forums have many annoying drawbacks (over-use of HTML, graphics, and multiple registrations, for instance) but they do tend to have busier communities, and they're less likely to mutate into off-topic nightmares or be deluged with spam. Third, my ISP, like some others, has dropped newsgroups from their standard offerings. I don't want to pay extra to subscribe to a dedicated newsgroup service.
>I had a few close calls. Broke my neck (C7), back (L4 compression >fracture) left arm (ulna at wrist snapped in two like a broomstick >handle), and had to have an AICD/PM installed because I have a lethal >heart rhythm. I have sustained Ventrucular Tachycardia.
>A lack of blood supply to my brain caused a fall from 2 stories high. >They had me on life support in Trauma and ICU. It took TWO YEARS in >braces and casts and then physical therapy to get back some of my >functions, but I still have severe cervical stenosis and my spinal >cord is getting pinched off in my neck. 1 blow to the head and I am a >quadraplegic, if I survive it at all. I can email you the MRI scan if >you want.
>Later, doctors told me I was going to die if I went home for the >weekend before I got the implant. So I have a Medtronic defibrillator >with anti-tachycardia pacing screwed into the bottom of my right >ventricle.
>So...I =was= dead twice. Once after the fall, and the 2nd time when >they fibrillated my heart in the OR to see if the AICD worked >properly. For a guy who has been dead twice already, I feel pretty >good ! 8-)
>AICD= automatic implantable cardioverter defibrillator >PM = pacemaker >ICU= intensive care unit >cervical stenosis = spinal cord column too narrow for spinal cord >tissue. >defibrillation= 35 joules directly into the myocardium to stop the >heart, in hopes that when it restarts itself it will do so with >*normal* rhythm.
>Note: trans-throacic topical defibrillation requires about 400 >joules, but since I'm wired directly into the heart, a lot less energy >is necessary.
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